End of service for Bintray in May, 2021

[imprakharshukla]

Problem description
Jfrog's Bintray which Termux uses as the primary hosting, is ending support in May of 2021. Here is the official announcement from the VP of dev relations for Jfrog https://jfrog.com/blog/into-the-sunset-bintray-jcenter-gocenter-and-chartcenter/.

Bintray/JCenter users should start migrating to a new hosting solution.

What new hosting solution will Termux switch to?

[RossComputerGuy]

I've noticed Linode is a cheap solution for running a VPS, ~$5/mo but traffic may cause the price to go up.

[imprakharshukla]

@RossComputerGuy $5 isn't the actual price because Bintray had allocated around 32 TB / month, which would account to being approximately $350 in Linode's outbound transfer. This doesn't come with a CDN as opposed to Bintray which makes it terribly slow.

Using a dedicated object storage like S3, DO Spaces, wasabi or blackblaze will require an app update, therefore will render the Play Store version useless. Plus it will shoot the prices well beyond a $1000.

In Feb. 28:

No more submissions will be accepted to Bintray, JCenter, GoCenter, and ChartCenter
The GoCenter and ChartCenter websites will be disabled (client requests will still work)

So this means that package updates will be stopped in Feb 28?

[imprakharshukla]

@wmcb-tech That is very confusing. They could also mean that no new user would be able to register for these services or just that all the rest and client requests will be blocked. I think former. How unprofessional of them to give such a short window for the migration.

Termux has more than 1000+ packages available though, well it's not a big deal since we have mirrors

[kcubeterm]

By the way I got some good results with ipfs at some extent but don't know what happen if lots of user will be there. So I will share links once I managed to get atleast 10 node.

So this means that package updates will be stopped in Feb 28?

Yes, this means any data submissions (package uploads) will be stopped.

By the way I got some good results with ipfs at some extent but don't know what happen if lots of user will be there.

@kcubeterm I can give a "stress test" to your setup by sending traffic from https://main.termux-mirror.ml to IPFS repo for some time.

So I will share links once I managed to get atleast 10 node.

Hopefully these 10 nodes are not 10 (free) accounts on Pinata/Temporal... not saying that this is (likely) against their ToS but also effectively only 2 nodes.

Ok, then I will manage to upload all latest available updates and then disable Github Actions uploads on next week to prevent any potential inconsistent state on Bintray repo (so it will continue to be available in RO mode until shutdown). We still have mirrors as shown in https://github.com/termux/termux-packages/wiki/Mirrors, so hosting by itself is not a problem currently but package submission workflow likely will be switched to manual.

@a1batross Are you continue hosting Termux mirror at https://termux.mentality.rip? I have noticed that last sync was on 26 Dec 2020.

[a1batross]

@xeffyr sorry, I forgot to move mirror.list config from old server so I rewrote it from scratch. Now it's mirroring {termux,game,science,unstable,x11}-packages. :)

[insign]

Maybe we (community) can seed like a p2p network, but or create public mirrors based on checksum verifications?

[Harshiv-Patel]

Well if every node needs to have the whole 20-50gigs worth of data, the torrent like p2p would be quite expensive for end users, Though I'm interested in the idea. I guess it'd have to be something where people can join and leave seeding parts of it from time to time.

The whole thing looks far more complicated the more I think about it.

[a1batross]

@Harshiv-Patel termux repos are less than 10GB.

The problem is not the distribution though but publishing. Bintray was pretty good at this.