CMIP7 historical stratospheric aerosol optical properties and volcanic stratospheric sulfur emissions #175
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Dear Dr. Aubry, Dealing with the stratospheric volcano information you provided for CMIP6Plus we have two questions:
Looking forward to your response, Martine Michou |
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Dear Dr. Aubry, Our climate model also uses the H2SO4 _mass field (molecules/cm3air). Thank you in advance. Makoto Deushi. |
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Dear Dr. Aubry, Thank you for letting us know.
We need (not the number density of ambient aerosol particles but) the H2SO4_mass field. Could you check the CMIP6 data and provide H2SO4 _mass data, please? Thank you in advance. |
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Dear Tom (@thomasaubry) At GFDL, we have been looking at the UOEXETER-CMIP-1-3-0 version (analysis of v1-3-1 is pending) and a question about the pre-satellite data has arisen. Attached is a plot from my colleague Fabien Paulot. My colleagues Jing Feng and David Paynter will provide more analysis later this week, but in the meantime here is an initial concern - "I ran a 20-year running mean on the whole time series. As you can see below, it's striking that all Post Pinatubo '20-year' means are among the lowest in the entire record. Thanks! |
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Dear Tom @thomasaubry, As Vaishali @vnaik60 mentioned earlier, David Paynter and myself at GFDL are converting the optical property data to formats required by GFDL models. When checking through SAOD data produced from different data versions (attached below), we find that the SAOD increases quite substantially from CMIP6 to v1-3-0, and we are concerned about the climate impact it may induce. For example, at 550nm (converted to GFDL band 500 to 600 nm), the average SAOD from 1850 to 1960 of cmip6plus v1-3-0 is 0.0163, it is almost twice as large as that in v1-1-3 (0.0084). Given this large increase, that would most likely double the impact on temperature and ocean heat uptake of volcanoes compared to CMIP6 (or version 1-1-3), do you have high scientific confidence that the absolute values of the volcanoes in 1-3-0 can be justified?? Thanks, |
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Hello Dr Aubry (@thomasaubry) |
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Hello Dr Aubry (@thomasaubry), |
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Hello Dr Aubry (@thomasaubry), |
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Dear Dr Aubry @thomasaubry , As has been discussed above, we too would like to know how "NaN" values in the data are to be filled. Thanks |
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Hello Thomas (@thomasaubry),
This view is consistent with Figure 4 in https://docs.google.com/document/d/1blX5kv0We1BteqWzMKs0OuhazAcAonay That most of the aerosol was distributed in the southern hemisphere is supported by a number of different observations and measurements ; stellar extinction, solar extinction, in-situ measurements (even some U2 flights!), and is consistent with lunar eclipse observations. Stothers, 2001, Major optical depth perturbations to the stratosphere from volcanic eruptions: Stellar extinction period, 1961-1978, JGR, has a nice summary of the evidence but there are plenty of studies from the 1960s onwards that the stratospheric aerosol impacts on radiation transmission was very much greater in the southern hemisphere. I have not seen any evidence to challenge that. I am worried that using a dataset that potentially has too much aerosol in the stratosphere in the years following 1963 would cause unintended effects in model simulations. I had a look at the CMIP6 hist-nat experiment and examined Northern hemisphere, Southern Hemisphere and the difference between the two for TAS (1.5m air temperature). The below figure shows that the response following Agung's eruption is slightly greater in the southern hemisphere relative to the northern hemisphere, in contrast to the other major volcanic eruptions.
If the more symmetric distribution is used, it will cause the simulations to have very similar responses as to the other major eruptions, with the Northern hemisphere cooling more than the southern hemisphere. Not only will this mean the spatial temperature response will be different, there will be knock on impacts on the measured impacts in models on the AMO, AMOC and others. e.g., Menary et al, 2020, Aerosol‐Forced AMOC Changes in CMIP6 Historical Simulations, GRL. Agung erupted around the same time as anthropogenic tropospheric aerosols were becoming very important to the climate response. An extra negative forcing in the northern hemisphere at this key time will add to the aerosol cooling influence in models. Is there anything that can be done to correct for this potential bias in the aerosol distribution following Agung? I know uncertainties are great before the satellite era, but the Mt Agung eruption was a focus of a lot of scientific enquiry - the most of any large volcanic eruption up to that time. It would be a shame to not use that information to provide the best available dataset for use in models. |
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@thomasaubry you summarized the status of CMIP7 volcanic dataset well. |
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@thomasaubry apologies a late starter here. Direct links to the datasets are below
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Dear Tom (@thomasaubry ) and all (@vnaik60 @lkemmons), I'm Mingxuan Wu, an Earth Scientist working at PNNL. We (@hwangacme) have recently used CMIP7 volcanic SO2 emission in our US DOE E3SM earth system model. Our preliminary results show that the stratospheric sulfate burden and stratospheric AOD significantly increase by 50 to 80%. For example, SO4 stratospheric AOD and burden increase from 0.098 and 4.97 TgS to 0.157 and 8.07 TgS in 1991-12. We are concerned that this would significantly reduce surface temperature in model. We are wondering people from other modeling centers have seen this (especially for models using volcanic SO2 emission)? |
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Our model uses AOD. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1blX5kv0We1BteqWzMKs0OuhazAcAonay gives the 1850-2021 mean as 0.0135 and my calculation reproduces this. However there is a small inconsistency in the climatology files where I calculate a mean of 0.0137.
This seems to be due to a change in the treatment of the tropopause (level below which data is missing) after 1979. Before this the tropopause is constant in time and afterwards it varies seasonally. I can match the climatology values by calculating the mean over non-missing values Taking missing values as zero gives the global value of 0.0135 which seems more correct. |
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Hi @thomasaubry, In addition, while looking at the code you provide to calculate the climatology (https://github.com/thomasaubry/CMIP7_stratforcing_v2.2.1/blob/main/makeclimatology.m), I noticed that the climatology contains 12 distinct monthly values. I have not included any seasonality and instead applied the same annual mean value to each month. Do you think this approach is still appropriate? |
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Hi @thomasaubry we are in the process of preparing the volcanic forcing data (ext, ssa, asy) for the NorESM3 model based on the CMIP7 files from input4MIPs (version UOEXETER-CMIP-2-2-1). My impression is that the optical properties in the climatology files (ext/ssa/asy_input4MIPs_aerosolProperties_CMIP_UOEXETER-CMIP-2-2-1_gnz_185001-202112-clim.nc), are calculated as a standard average based on the time series file. I however would have expected that a weighted average should have been used to calculate the time average of ssa (where one uses ext as weighting) and the time average of asy (where one uses ext*ssa as weighting). II think that in the volcanic forcing data made available for CMIP6, such a weighted average had been used to generate the mean climatology of the optical parameters. Is there any reason why ssa and asy are standard averages and not weighted averages in the CMIP7 climatology? Is it best that modelling centers use the climatology provided in UOEXETER-CMIP-2-2-1, or is better to use a weighted averaged climatology (which the modelling centers calculate themselves)? Best regards, |
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This discussion is the place for all things stratospheric aerosol optical properties and volcanic stratospheric sulfur emissions! Version 2.2.1 of our dataset is on ESGF and is the version recommended for use in CMIP7 Fast Track. After an update in January 2026, CMIP7 ScenarioMIP runs should use version 2.2.2 of our Scenario files.
The aerosol optical property dataset is documented in (please contribute to the open discussion in GMD):
Aubry, T. J., Toohey, M., Khanal, S., Chim, M. M., Verkerk, M., Johnson, B., Schmidt, A., Kovilakam, M., Sigl, M., Nicholls, Z., Thomason, L., Naik, V., Rieger, L., Stiller, D., Ziegler, E., and Smith, I.: Stratospheric aerosol forcing for CMIP7 (part 1): Optical properties for pre-industrial, historical, and scenario simulations (version 2.2.1), EGUsphere [preprint], https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2025-4990, 2025.
The volcanic emission dataset is documented in (please contribute to the open discussion in GMD):
Aubry, T. J., Sigl, M., Toohey, M., Chim, M. M., Verkerk, M., Schmidt, A., and Carn, S. A.: Stratospheric aerosol forcing for CMIP7 (part 2): Volcanic sulfur dioxide emissions, EGUsphere [preprint], https://doi.org/10.5194/egusphere-2026-546, 2026.
All codes and source datasets used to produce our datasets are available on zenodo and GitHub (minus GloSSAC which was too big to upload on GitHub). We are keeping our brief documentation online where we will continue to document new versions of the dataset. Should any comment/question you leave be left unanswered for longer than you wish, please contact Thomas Aubry (thomas.aubry@earth.ox.ac.uk).
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